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Thread: Windows 10 free upgrade
Harrison 18:30 6th March 2016
I went from an XFX 6950 XXX Double-D 2GB to an MSI GTX970. I had the old card for quite some time since building my i7 2600K gaming rig at the start of 2013 and it had performed perfectly well up until last year. I normally run games in my Dell monitor's 2560x1440 resolution but Mordor and GTA5 struggled and I either had to drop the graphical settings or run in 1080 to get max settings. Even then GTA5 only managed 30-50fps. Now with the 970 it's running at a fixed 60fps with no fluctuation. @Kin I know you might comment on running at 60fps and not higher, but my monitor is 60Hz and I'm happy.

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Demon Cleaner 09:29 7th March 2016
Originally Posted by Kin Hell:
If you must have gaming potential on a Laptop, spend as much as you can afford & leave it at that. Perhaps you could search for benchmark comparisons between the 980M, 980, 970M & 970 for a true evaluation, or.... Say f'k it & throw the extra 380 Euro at it to be as fast as you can be on a flip screen box.

How about an MSI Laptop with GTX980M in SLI?
I want the configurable Clevo chassis based notebook, as it's slim built.

http://www.notebookguru.de/en/Notebo...ch-config.html

With the configuration I want, I would get it at the moment for 2000€. It has a promotion at the moment where you get 100€ off, plus the SSD for 90€ cheaper. And I also need a swiss/french keyboard, as I'm used to that, and with this one I can chose that.

The 980M is around 30% faster than the 970M, it's quite a big difference, thus the price difference.

@Harrison: The mobile versions are slower than the desktop versions though. Like I said, it could still be more future proof.
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Harrison 10:48 7th March 2016
Yes, mobile versions are a bit less powerful. Before you decide just check to see when the next series of GPUs are sure to be announced because they might not be far off. The 970 and 980 have been out for some time now in technology terms. They will still be perfectly good for at least the next 2 years and if you are only running 1080 resolution then they will be more than enough.

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Demon Cleaner 11:31 7th March 2016
Originally Posted by Harrison:
Before you decide just check to see when the next series of GPUs are sure to be announced because they might not be far off.
That's what I initially thought, but so far I didn't find a lot of information. NVidia announced the Pascal GPUs, perhaps for Q2 this year, but nothing is confirmed.

What if YOU had to chose now? Does the 980 justify the higher price?
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Teho 13:33 7th March 2016
I did choose now, or two months ago anyway, and I thought the 980 was too expensive. I figured I'd be better off with a 970 now and getting a second one for SLI at a later point. This wasn't for a laptop of course.
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Harrison 14:40 7th March 2016
@DC. No, the 980 doesn't justify the huge difference in price compared to the performed difference. If you were planning to run games in 4K resolution or were serious about VR such as Oculous Rift then maybe, but at the moment for the price the GTX970 can't be beaten.

When looking I did consider the AMD R9 390 as the performance is similar to the 970, but the power consumption is double that of the 970 and they run hot and noisy. Even compared to my old 6950 my 970 is so quite. In fact when not gaming the fans don't even need to spin. Such design would be very good for a laptop.

I also looked at the 980 but 500 compared to 280 for the 970 was a huge difference in price for relatively small performance gain. Stick with a 970.

It's also the card most develops seem to have in mind for currently developing their games.

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Kin Hell 17:21 7th March 2016
Originally Posted by Demon Cleaner:
Originally Posted by Harrison:
Before you decide just check to see when the next series of GPUs are sure to be announced because they might not be far off.
That's what I initially thought, but so far I didn't find a lot of information. NVidia announced the Pascal GPUs, perhaps for Q2 this year, but nothing is confirmed.

What if YOU had to chose now? Does the 980 justify the higher price?
I heard the next Gen of nVidia was suppose to be end of 1st quarter....

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-gpu-gtc-2015/

I don't have to choose & only you can justify the extra money. ....But a 30% performance boost in any Graphical environment is going to be a win.

@ H

Pah! @ 60fps.
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Demon Cleaner 23:24 8th March 2016
On the other side, I mainly play older games or Steam stuff on the PC, as most AAA titles I play on my PS4. Therefore a 970 might suffice. But then I think I might still be able to play them on my old laptop, which although is only a dual core with some old Radeon.

In the end, I might play some shooters or strategy/simulation games, which are more fit for PC.

380€ is indeed a huge difference, although I have the money, but it would perhaps be a waste and I could do something else if needed.

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Originally Posted by Harrison:
It also supports scheduled updates and delayed update system reboots, whereas home forces system updates as soon as they are pushed to the system and forces reboots.
Btw, in the Home edition I managed to set the updates to ask for a reboot, then you can schedule them. It's in the Windows Update advanced settings.
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Harrison 08:53 9th March 2016
Yes, but in Pro you can set the OS to delay all pushed updates for up to a month and set a scheduled day for the system to perform a monthly update of accumulated updates. Not really recommended for most home users.

Also in home can it be set to notify you in the righthand notifications of new updates and allow you to pick the ones to download and install? The same as 7 did. It's how I have pro setup, but based on what I've read I'm unsure if home can be set to do this. Would be interesting to know.

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Demon Cleaner 12:31 9th March 2016
Originally Posted by Kin Hell:
I heard the next Gen of nVidia was suppose to be end of 1st quarter...
In the article it says: To launch in 2016, purportedly the second half of the year.


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I'm still reading articles about whether getting the 970M or the 980M.

Checking forums, a lot of people really have different opinions about it. Some justify the extra money by saying it's more future proof, like if you want to keep your laptop longer than 2 years, which is indeed my case, I don't plan to change for probably the next 5 years. And that is basically my main concern, will the 970M still perform well in let's say 2-3 years?

Still a bit stuck with my decision.
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