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Thread: Finally getting fibre broadband!!!
Demon Cleaner 19:15 3rd February 2015
Don't get what you really mean?

The fibre is at my home place, not at work, if that's what you asked?
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Harrison 01:13 4th February 2015
There are 2 types of fibre broadband you can get to a house. FTTC and FTTP.

Fibre to the cabinet runs the fibre cable to the nearest telephone exchange cabinet in your road, then the remaining distance from the cabinet to your house used existing copper phone cable. This is chapter because they only need to contact the phone exchange to each street cabinet, and not all the way to each house. This is the type we mostly have in the UK, which I have called BT Infinity.

The other more expensive type is called Fibre to the Premises, where the fibre connection is run right to your house and directly connected.
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Demon Cleaner 13:03 4th February 2015
Originally Posted by Harrison:
The other more expensive type is called Fibre to the Premises, where the fibre connection is run right to your house and directly connected.
That's what I have now, still used copper before, but now it's connected straight away to the fibre that comes into the house.
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Harrison 18:47 4th February 2015
Nice. Very rare to get fibre directly to the house in the UK.

What is the Max bandwidth you could of had?

In the UK I think it's about 300 Mbits for the lucky few. However BT have just announced they will start trialling a new technology using fibre to the cabinet, which in theory will provide between 500 Mbits and 1 Gbit! Now that would be something and could roll out within the next 2 years.
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Demon Cleaner 12:00 5th February 2015
Maximum is 1000Mb down and 500Mb up. I don't know about the UK, but I think the prices are quite steep here in Luxembourg compared to ANY other country, we are definitely too small.

Check out the prices here, comparison between the 4 available options: http://www.post.lu/en/particuliers/i...uxfibre#panel2

For 15€ a month more, I could have the next one, but I think for what I need, this is fast enough. I almost download nothing at home, and the 50Mb upload will probably never be fully used.
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Harrison 22:20 5th February 2015
UK prices can be expensive. I've got mine with British Telecom (BT) on their Infinity 2 fibre connection. The other issue is that with Fibre (FTTC) you also are required to take out your line rental and phone call plans with the same company as the Internet connection.

Line rental is normally about £16.99 a month, plus £26 for fibre.. So that is £42.99. Then you have addons for phone calls, such as all inclusive calls for £7 per month. So it quickly adds up.
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Stephen Coates 20:39 13th May 2015
I've just been informed by my Mother that she is getting fibre internet next week, and they are sending an engineer and a router.

I do not want my mother or any 'engineer' messing with my networking hardware up here, so, should I just unplug my ADSL2+ modem on Monday, lock myself in here with a coffee, let them get on with it, and pray they don't want any free technical support?
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Harrison 01:36 14th May 2015
The engineer will just need to replace the BT Master Socket with an Openreach Fibre plate which will include a normal phone socket and a data socket. He will then need to go to the local FTTC cabinet and connect your house to that cabinet, then activate the connection with the exchange. Then finally come back to the house and plug the modem/router into the data socket and check the connection is up and running.

Normally they will ask for a laptop or computer to be connected directly to the new router so they can check the connection is working. The first time I had it activated the engineer wanted me to run the BT line speed test from their website and that was all. Subsequent visits when I moved my BT infinity with me they never asked. They just made sure their test equipment reported the connection was good and that the router light turned blue.

Remember however that if you want to connect to the router you will need to directly via ethernet or wifi. You cannot use a phone line extension to relocate the router elsewhere in the house, as you could with ADSL. You no longer use ADSL filters. Only the BT master socket can be used to connect the modem/router and any other phone lone extensions in the house will just work as a phone line, not for the internet. The engineer should offer the option to relocate the data connection elsewhere in the house if wanted. I had this done in my house so my router is located upstairs in my office. They run a data cable (basically a very thin ethernet cable) from the bt master switch to your new location (within 30 metres) and the cable just ends with a connector for the router (not a new socket). Mine runs along the skirting, up the stairs and they drilled a hole though the wall into the office.

Some engineers can be difficult and try to refuse to run a data cable, but luckily my house doesn't have an electric socket anywhere near the BT master socket, so the engineer was forced to locate the data connection elsewhere where there was one. In contrast, when I moved into the rented cottage last year (when we flooded) the engineer whom installed it there refused to run a data cable because he thought it would be too difficult and I guessed because there was a plug socket right by the BT master socket, so his job was easy and done in about 15 minutes. But it wasn't so great for me because the Master Socket in that cottage was in the master bedroom window at the opposite end of the house to my office, so I had to buy 30 metres of ethernet cable to run the length of the house to relocate the router. Annoying, but it worked OK.
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Stephen Coates 04:24 14th May 2015
Thanks harrison. I expect I can just leave them to do as they please with the master socket, and I'll just unplug my ADSL2+ modem. I expect my Mother will want her hardware downstairs near the master socket.

Do you know what kind of equipment ISPs tend to supply? My Mum just said that they are 'sending a new router out'. Of course, knowing my Mum, 'router' could mean anything, and I don't what what ISP she has gone with. Just asking out of curiosity really. I'd rather not get involved as I've been pondering moving house myself.
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Harrison 15:52 14th May 2015
If it's BT then it will be their BT Home Hub 5. This is what I'm using and it is quite good. Stable connection and fairly strong dual channel WiFi. Only downside is limited advanced settings to really mess around compared with my old Billion router.

Sky supply their own router, which I've heard is quite rubbish, has horrible wifi and drops the connection more than most.

For me though, Infinity has been really stable and nothing like ADSL. You don't constantly get line drops or the need to reboot the router, as is common for ADSL.
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