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Thread: Connecting Amiga to PC LCD with this device, capture video with no pc
Tiago 21:20 20th November 2010
It's not the first time, we talked about connecting the Amiga to a PC LCD, the main problem was the frequency, i found this device:

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/monito...k-tv-pro2.html

with this you can connect a video signal to a PC LCD without a PC... don't have scart, but i think it has a s-video... if this exists, maybe we can find a similar device with scart. This one is below 100 dolars...
cheaper then a scandoubler... ok ok the image is not as good.... i think...
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Phantom 22:52 20th November 2010
My opinion is to get one of the Indivisions, they are just great. You pay a little bit more, but it's far a safer route than the one you aforementioned.
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Harrison 15:37 22nd November 2010
The Indivisions are great, but for those of us with many retro systems there is a real need for an external conversion box that can take the RGB signal from the Amiga (and other systems) and upscale it to SVGA correctly. The upscalers that exist and are easily found on ebay only upscale SVideo and Composite, and the output quality is obviously not ever going to be as good as a pure upscaled clean signal from an RGB or other monitor port.

A market definitely exists for this, but so far no one has attempted to make it. I don't really get why. It would also be of use commercially as there are loads of older computer systems still used in industries that don't output standard monitor signals. Their systems may still work perfectly, with no need or advantage in upgrading, but with old failing display monitors. I don't see why there hasn't been a large call for such an external upscaler.
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Tiago 08:29 23rd November 2010
Yes Harrison, that's it.
i know Indivisons are great, but if you have other Retro Stuff, it gets expensive... i would love to have one, but i also haev Atari ST, and i am thinking og getting other systems. So i would prefer a more balance output, that i can use with other machines.
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Harrison 12:39 23rd November 2010
Me too! I'm still searching for a good solution for this. At the moment I have each device connected via SCART to a SCART switcher box, so I can get a proper RGB signal to the TV, and the image quality is pretty good. But it doesn't look as good on an LCD TV as it does on a CRT, and I would also like to be able to setup my retro systems with an LCD monitor to make it a more compact setup.
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Tiago 13:35 23rd November 2010
that switcher box you have, is it digital or analogic? I had one analogic it was basicly a physical switch, it worked, but i made a bit of phantom image.
the digital one i know they work quite good, but does you switch gives the same image as directly connected to the tv?
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Harrison 15:26 23rd November 2010
I've owned the switch I used for quite a few years. It is a manual switch, which are generally better than digital switches and the manual control normally isolates the channel better. I don't get any ghosting with the switch and it looks as good as connecting directly to the TV. I've no idea on the make or model as it doesn't say, but I bought it from a home cinema specialist store years ago and it was quite expensive at the time. The scarts connecting it to the TV were also quite expensive at the time, made by IXOS with heavy shielding and gold plating.

I have found a scart to VGA converter but it is very expensive for what it is.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?...C=SO&U=Strat15
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Harrison 15:38 23rd November 2010
Another idea is HDMI. Most new monitors are now having an HDMI port included, and I think over time most consumer computers are going to clowly move over to HDMI as the display cable of choice. A lot of graphics cards now also have HDMI ouput on them so you can connect directly, and with HDMI you can transfer the audio as well, so a monitor with sound will only need a single cable for both.

Anyway... there are some upscale converters that exist which convert RGB scart to HDMI. They seem expensive though, but would be a cool solution. Look at this one for an idea.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CM393-CENTAUR-...item1bfe47b57b
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Tiago 18:25 23rd November 2010
looks very nice, but more then 200 pounds .... :-(
i wounder what it deals with the low frequencies of miggy
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