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Thread: F1 Codemasters 2010 - i bought it - here you have some videos i put on youtube
Tiago 00:09 25th September 2010
F1 Codemasters 2010 - finally I have it !!!
The game is so so so good, graphics are the best i saw so far for a car game.

Weather effects are really nice.
I just got it today so i have only 10 minutes of play.

I record it with my phone. Image of the movies is quite good (for a phone)
Sorry but no audio, dont know why, but at 640x480 my phone dont record the sound well.

Monaco


Spa Francorchamps - rain !!! Look as it rains just a litle and then starts to rain more. quite good, the movie maybe not give you the right feeling but it's very good.


Montreal

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Harrison 00:23 25th September 2010
That does look really impressive. Graphically on a par with some of the most recent PC racers. Not sure if its PC release date is the same as the PS3, but it is tempting.

BTW, watching the videos I'm assuming you have all the driver aids active, as well as no collision damage? Especially Monaco!
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Tiago 11:05 25th September 2010
Yes,
it was the first laps, so i didnt remove any help, only brakes and track lines assist.
I dont have a steering wheel, so it's not easy with the controller.
today i will start to get on the game starting with changing the wings and gears to see how the car reacts.

Monaco is fantastic, it gives you a great feeling.

One thing it's very nice is that in other games, when it's raining its always the same. Here you can have a bit of rain or a lot of rain, and you see the diference, and on the track,
with few rain, parts of the track have water, while other parts are dry... the car looks the handle different on the more wet surfaces... very very good.
Complete different game. It was a big step forward in car games.... GT5 should be another huge step.
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outlawal2 14:47 27th September 2010
I bought the PC version of the game myself and while the graphics and effects are top notch, I would wait until a patch is released before buying it... MANY bugs in the game.. We are all used to bugs on new releases but this one is over the top in my opinion. MANY bugs, but here are a few of the major ones I have personally seen...

The worst bug so far is a pit stop bug that makes you wat until every car is finished before letting you leave the pits.. In F1, a good stop is about 4 seconds or so.. My first stop was 29 seconds and set me back from 4th. place to dead last.. They MUST fix this asap.

A few other bugs include crossing the line in 5th place and getting credit for winning the race.. (WTF ???)
Laptimes are often completely impossible and seldom indicative of your performance... PC will sometimes crash on saving the game losing all information and requiring you to restart the season.

WAY too many penalties for questionable infractions. I am accused CONSTANTLY of cutting the track when i definitely am not. I make a clear pass and get hit by the AI car and I am penalized for the collision. Run off the track to avoid a crash in front of me and get penalized. Run into a crash cause by someone else, get hit from behind and I get penalized... They need to fix these issues as well..

Codemasters got themselves caught up in the rush to get this game to market and it has really bit them in the ass due to these bugs. some of them are so blatant that it is very obvious that very little testing was actually done for this game and that is unfortunate. Codemasters have taken the exact opposite approach that Blizzard did with Starcraft 2. Blizzard said "Shut up and we will release it when it is READY" and they released an excellent game with few issues... Codemasters (and most software companies today) need to weigh the advantages of early release with the bad press and ill will caused by releasing the software without proper and comprehensive testing. It is a shame as the game looks and feels great..

If they put together a good patch, this is a solid racing game and it is already very fun to play, but with it in it's current state I cannot recommend it.. .Yet..

---------- Post added at 09:47 ---------- Previous post was at 09:28 ----------

OK, I tried to edit my previous post to add the following but for whatever reason the edit failed 3 times... (Oh well)

Anyway,
TIAGO: I hope I did not offend you with the review above as I greatly enjoy this game too! I did want to make sure that everyone understood; however, that the game does have some major issues at this time. (checking the Codemasters forum there is a thread to track bugs and it is over 105 pages long! obviously not every entry is a new bug, but the sheer volume of responses clearly shows the anger that is being directed at Codemasters due to this release and it's issues.)

CHEERS
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Harrison 15:09 27th September 2010
Originally Posted by outlawal2:
OK, I tried to edit my previous post to add the following but for whatever reason the edit failed 3 times... (Oh well)
There is a bug in the forum software at the moment (ironic considering the mention of bugs in this game), which doesn't always let you quick edit an existing post. It will hang when trying to save with the spinning saving icon and never completes. Instead, at the moment to edit a post, edit it, but then click the Go Advanced button. Once edited it will save correctly from there.
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Harrison 15:12 27th September 2010
A lot of PC games always contain a fair few bugs, and there will always be arguments from gamers asking questions about why they released it unfinished and didn't wait until it was completely bug fixed. The problem with an F1 game is that they needed to release it during the 2010 F1 season to secure maximum sales, so they had to get the game out. It sounds from your post that there are a few annoying ones for sure, but hopefully they will be fixed soon. All software always has its bugs, look at Vista! At least these days console owners have the same support from developers as PC owners and can receive patches for their games to fix them. That is a big plus for having systems online.
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Tiago 17:41 27th September 2010
Originally Posted by :
The worst bug so far is a pit stop bug that makes you wat until every car is finished before letting you leave the pits.. In F1, a good stop is about 4 seconds or so.. My first stop was 29 seconds and set me back from 4th. place to dead last.. They MUST fix this asap.
Yes, this was the first but i saw...

I also find some penaltys not far, but not so much.

Originally Posted by :
A few other bugs include crossing the line in 5th place and getting credit for winning the race.. (WTF ???)
Laptimes are often completely impossible and seldom indicative of your performance... PC will sometimes crash on saving the game losing all information and requiring you to restart the season.
That did not happend with me yet...

When i said it was very good, it was a first impression. So far i did around 70 laps in several races and in PS3 version i am liking a lot :-) sure thera are things to repair/update, but i think is quite good.

some very nice things i found so far:
- whan it's raining but it getting over with less and less rain the track starts to have a dry line of trajectory, cars have much better grip in that "line".
- you can feel difference when it's just raining a bit or the track is not with much water in using rain tyres or intermediate. rain tyres when the track has very few water gives you a less grip, and you fell more "confortable" in intermediate. Or when you try to move on slicks but the track is not totally dry, when you catch bit of water the car looses grip. This weather relation i found to be very cool.
- you can see understeer and oversteer effects

not so good thinks:
- no telemetry, like the microprose series... this would be the best thing it could have, but it doesn't. :-(
- you dont see a direct change in your car when you set a different setup like wings, suspension. There is a difference, and you can feel it, but is not so visible as GP series(microprose)
- when you get into the pit, and you driving in the pit lane, it doesn't make a smooth transiction from the pit lane the place where you stop the car. It looks like he is passing without stoping and in the last second he does a 90ª angle right and then left to stop the car... :-( this is the most ridiculous thing in the game ....

but i still think is quite good. And as outlawal2 said with some patchs it is going to be great.
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